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Thor (male) (admin) (dj)

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Radio online
The radio has been brought back online again. Please do not broadcast commercial music. It can get the site in trouble. Broadcasting commercial music requires a license from TONO.
Posted on 16 Sep 2006 07:12  Quote  


RPDOfficer (male) (dj)

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14 May 2006 18:23
Re: Radio online
Commerical Music?

Posted on 16 Sep 2006 07:21  Quote  


Thor (male) (admin) (dj)

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Re: Radio online
Music that is sold in record stores.
Posted on 16 Sep 2006 07:23  Quote  


RPDOfficer (male) (dj)

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Re: Radio online
D'oh...Crud.


Well there goes my Radio show :(

Posted on 16 Sep 2006 07:23  Quote  


Thor (male) (admin) (dj)

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Re: Radio online
If all the DJs scrape together 92 dollars every month, you can broadcast what the heck you like, as long as you write a list of what you play. :P
Posted on 16 Sep 2006 07:50  Quote  


RPDOfficer (male) (dj)

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Re: Radio online
All Together?
Not Each Member?
Maybe I can get that done.

Posted on 16 Sep 2006 07:52  Quote  


tres (female)

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14 Jan 2005 21:14
Re: Radio online
what about music that is sold in CD stores ? : D

don't drink too much chocolat milk... like six gallons a day... that's way too much..
Posted on 16 Sep 2006 08:00  Quote  


Thor (male) (admin) (dj)

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Re: Radio online
That would be the total, every month.

TONO is the regulatory organ for public performance of music in Norway. Similar instances exist in other countries all over the world. Their rules basically say:

We ask for 12% of the service's monthly turnover, the minimum being 600 kroner. With today's exchange rate, that is 91 dollars and 83 cents.

The rules further say:
«The broadcaster is further obliged to report all music use in a representative week for each of the months January, April, July and October. The reports shall contain work's title, rights owner and play time for every musical work used in the web radio streaming. In the report, the broadcaster shall inform about the service's gross turnover per month. The report must be delivered within the 15th, for the month the report applies to.»

The radio is free and we don't advertise on the channel. Our gross turnover is 0, and the minimum rate thus applies.
Posted on 16 Sep 2006 08:02  Quote  


Thor (male) (admin) (dj)

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Re: Radio online
The cat smiley should be «eighty-three» in digits.

By «rights holder», they mean artist.
Posted on 16 Sep 2006 08:04  Quote  


Thor (male) (admin) (dj)

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Re: Radio online
*this makes our gross turnover 0.
Posted on 16 Sep 2006 08:04  Quote  


Thor (male) (admin) (dj)

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Re: Radio online
Bump.
Posted on 16 Sep 2006 13:51  Quote  


HauntedArt (male)

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Re: Radio online
Is free mp3s found on artists websites ok ? I mean, it's still commercial music but do you know if the rules for broadcasting still applies for the songs they put out for free ?

http://www.grimmegrim.com
Posted on 17 Sep 2006 08:24  Quote  


Dogss (female)

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Re: Radio online
That's pretty much all music ever recorded...

Now what??

Or maybe I should just avoid playing anything mainstream?

I'll always be a Daisy.
Posted on 19 Sep 2006 05:40  Quote  


Thor (male) (admin) (dj)

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Re: Radio online
Do a little research. Find out what the band/artist has said about it in the media. Some bands are fine with concert recordings, for instance. Other bands haven't been signed to a large label, and will probably not cause a fuss.

I think this community should be able to find 100 dollars/month, though. If 20 people pay 5 dollars to a PayPal account, that is 100 dollars. The site has a small amount of ad revenue. It took months to save up 0. It's going better: Now it takes about 2 months to gather 0. If I take some money from there, say 50 dollars, that's 50 dollars left to cover. This would mean that I cover half the cost out of my own pocket.

This site needs some alternative source of revenue.
Posted on 19 Sep 2006 07:32  Quote  


Vega (male)

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11 May 2006 04:36
Re: Radio online
Wow, this sucks..... :( How the hell were gonna air music now... DX
Posted on 19 Sep 2006 15:08  Quote  


Thor (male) (admin) (dj)

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Re: Radio online
It's the law, Vega.
Posted on 20 Sep 2006 00:13  Quote  


Vega (male)

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Re: Radio online
OK, I understand.... maybe we should raise the money or something....you know, like a fund for our little art community...I don't know.... Man, the law is expensive :
Posted on 20 Sep 2006 00:48  Quote  


Unity (female)

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Re: Radio online
I will help :]

Posted on 20 Sep 2006 08:38  Quote  


Dogss (female)

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Re: Radio online
OH !!!!

I wish I had a paypal account!! WAHHHhhhh ;__; I don't, I keep bugging my parents to get me one but they procrastinate! Oh I wish I could help!! D:

I'll always be a Daisy.
Posted on 21 Sep 2006 02:25  Quote  


Vega (male)

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11 May 2006 04:36
Re: Radio online
I wish we can save ArtGrounds Radio :( Too bad most of us are poor XD
Posted on 23 Sep 2006 00:46  Quote  


MazBourne (female)

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29 Jul 2005 18:17
Re: Radio online
what about b-sides that had nothing to do with the singles or albums? or anime music for example? some of that stuff's decent... I actually have a friend who is a propper radio DJ for a radio station not too far away

"They're just ordinary people doing their jobs"
Posted on 5 Oct 2006 10:54  Quote  


MazBourne (female)

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Re: Radio online
whom, may i add still owes me a favour XD

"They're just ordinary people doing their jobs"
Posted on 5 Oct 2006 11:04  Quote  


Thor (male) (admin) (dj)

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Re: Radio online
If the band isn't signed, they're probably happy to get the exposure. If the band is signed, check if they or their label are for file-sharing of their music (much Indie music falls into this category). If the band/label hasn't given a statement on the matter, assume no. Music that isn't readily available for purchase (e.g. Anime music) is *probably* okay.
Posted on 5 Oct 2006 11:08  Quote  


Vega (male)

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Re: Radio online
So something I find from muzie.co.jp or soundclick is OK?
Posted on 5 Oct 2006 14:27  Quote  


Thor (male) (admin) (dj)

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Re: Radio online
As a general rule, if it's already legally available on the Internet, for free, you can safely broadcast it.
Posted on 5 Oct 2006 15:52  Quote  


Vega (male)

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Re: Radio online
Sweet :3 Cause I only use music I get from the internet, and I dont own any CDs
Posted on 5 Oct 2006 18:20  Quote  


DemonSilk (female)

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Re: Radio online
I have a PayPal account... and.. I have .... D: *feels so bad* I wanted my kingdom hearts game too but now I'm torn ._.

A cat will land on it's feet, while toast lands butter-side down, but a cat with buttered toast tied to it's back will hover in the air in a state of quantum indecision.
Posted on 5 Oct 2006 21:51  Quote  

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